[CinCV TNG] Default Transition not work

Sam cinelerra at posteo.de
Sat Jun 16 18:39:55 CEST 2018

I didn't realize yesterday that it was different than I thought. I am 
also irritated by the current behaviour.

I have a default button, but if I want to add another transition, it 
becomes the default again. According to the current usage behavior I 
don't need the default button because it doesn't serve any purpose. The 
OK button automatically overwrites the default state. For me it would 
make more sense if the OK button only adds the currently selected 
transition, but does not set the default status. Only by pressing the 
default button the transition is set as default. This feature could be 
improved. If no default transition is set and the user presses the 
'Default Transition' button or the key combination, then the 'Attach 
Transition' window opens automatically.



On 16.06.2018 18:11, Igor BEGHETTO wrote:
> Thanks so much, but I can't test it because I usually use build 
> version, and I don't want to disturb you to make a new special build 
> for me.
> If I understand well, than "Last Used Transition" becomes "Default 
> Transition" in any case?
> In Sam/IgorBeg version I thought that the "Default Transition" would 
> have to be setting and, Drag&Drop (#1) and Attach Transition (#2) 
> don't change "Default Transition".
> Maybe is it to add implementation without change old workflow?
> IgorBeg
> Il 16/06/2018 0.54, Phyllis Smith ha scritto:
>> Just checked in Transition modification with changes as suggested by 
>> Sam/IgorBeg photomontage.  Here is how it works.
>> 1.) if your drag and drop a video or audio transition from the 
>> Resources window, that becomes the default transition
>> 2.) if you select a transition from the video/audio attach transition 
>> from the video/audio pulldown, that becomes the default
>> Now, #3 below is the new wrinkle:
>> 3.) if you select a transition from the v/a attach transition 
>> pulldown AND press the new "Set Default Transition" AND instead of 
>> clicking on the green colored checkmark for OK, you hit the red 
>> colored X, the default transition will be set to that selection AND 
>> no transition will be added to you timeline
>> 4.) however if instead of hitting the X in #3, you click OK, you get 
>> the default set and the transition added to the timeline
>> This implementation seemed to work best.
>> Also, I can not reproduce the originally reported by IgorBeghetto 
>> error of "U" reporting "No default transition found" and I tried at 
>> least 10 times in 10 different ways. Also, deleted $HOME/.bcast5 and 
>> started from scratch and could not reproduce.  Also, can not 
>> reproduce Ugin's reported problem of saving project, not saving the 
>> Video transition "slide" after reopening.  If anyone still sees these 
>> 2 problems, please report and provide a kino so I can reproduce.   
>> gg/phyllis
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Igor BEGHETTO <igorbeg at visi1.org 
>> <mailto:igorbeg at visi1.org>> wrote:
>>     I just used your workflow with drag and drop; it work fine, thanks.
>>     And I agree with your suggestion (and photomontage), Sam.
>>     If possible I would do this:
>>     - In the Attach Transition window add a PushButton, named
>>     "Default", and a label with the name of current default transition.
>>     - To change the default transition I have to select a transition'
>>     name by the list and than press the PushButton; the near label is
>>     update with the name of new transition.
>>     ( I  make little changes in your photomontage)
>>     IgorBeg
>>>>     Step to reproduce
>>>>     (cinelerra-5.1-ub16.04-20180531.x86_64-static.txz):
>>>>     1. On Program Window I select "Cut and Past editing mode",
>>>>     2. In a armed Video track I select two parts of a video
>>>>     (highlight region),
>>>>     3. Menu ->Video -> Attach Transition...
>>>>     4. In the Modal Window, I select "Dissolve" transition, and
>>>>     click OK.
>>>>     5. It is applied.
>>>>     6. Than I select an other parts of two video (highlight region).
>>>>     7. Press Shift-U (or in Menu ->Video -> Default Transition),
>>>>     but nothing occur. And on bottom-left corner of Program Window
>>>>     (Timeline) there is the message: "No default trasnsition found".
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