[CinCV TNG] [impr] context menu for single clips

Sam cinelerra at posteo.de
Sat May 5 18:26:03 CEST 2018

Thanks for the info. If the integration of the LV2 should be too 
difficult, I would have an alternative proposal.

I really like the idea of how the integration of Inkscape was solved. 
Maybe it would be the solution to integrate the audio workstation Ardour 
as a plugin. Ardour also masters non-free plugins and many other free 
audio plugins very well. For example, you could create an Ardour plugin 
that points to an active Ardour session, similar to Inkscape. This 
solution would be comparable to Davinci Resolve and FairLight Console 
(audio workstation). It would have the great advantage that Cinelerra 
focuses on video editing and you can connect to other large audio 
workstations. Ardour excellently fulfils the strength of professional 
audio production. This division of tasks would save an enormous amount 
of time in the future in order to concentrate on the core tasks. 
Additionally I would also welcome a video plugin for Natron Compositing. 
Natron compositing is used for special effects. Similar to Adobe 
Premiere and After Effects. In our case Cinelerra is like Premiere and 
Natron Compositing like After Effects. Cinelerra would beat all previous 
free and even some proprietary video editing software by length. 
Cinelerra would make a name for herself in the open source 
post-production community. This combination of these three free software 
packages would be the absolute awesome thing.


On 05.05.2018 12:12, Phyllis Smith wrote:
> Interesting!  GG has not had time to look at this yet to determine 
> feasibility, but I will let you know if/what he thinks about this.  He 
> is currently looking at the LV2 plugins to determine if there is any 
> way to get them hooked into cin5.    GG/Phyllis
> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 3:35 AM, Sam <cinelerra at posteo.de 
> <mailto:cinelerra at posteo.de>> wrote:
>     I've come up with another advantage. A really big advantage with
>     the context menu for single clips is that I can apply video
>     transitions and effects over several clips at the same time.
>     Usually I first cut my video material and put it in the correct
>     order, then I add the video transitions, but in Cinelerra always
>     for each individual cut mark. In Kdenlive I mark the clips and put
>     a video transition over several clips. This option saves an
>     enormous amount of time and is very convenient. As you can also
>     see in my new demonstration, I don't have to lock any video tracks
>     at all. I simply mark the clips I want to edit and edit them. This
>     makes it unnecessary to lock the tracks over and over again. This
>     makes working in Kdenlive and Permiere more intuitive and saves a
>     lot of time. Especially with larger projects, locking and
>     unlocking the individual tracks is very time-consuming. The lock
>     action is only a few seconds, but for large projects this action
>     multiplies to several minutes. The context menu and the
>     possibility to mark single video clips or even several video clips
>     at the same time raise the handling to a whole new level. In my
>     demo you can see how easy it is to edit the individual clips.
>     https://streamable.com/e5cct
>     Sam
>     On 04.05.2018 21:21, Sam wrote:
>         After felt hundreds of improvements for Cinlerra I have to
>         admit, the software is already really good, but there is one
>         thing that still bothers me. Compared to 90% of other video
>         editing software, Cinelerra has one major shortcoming. That I
>         can't select individual video or audio pieces in the timeline
>         with a single mouse click. In Kdenlive/Premiere etc. I click
>         on a video clip in the timeline and this video clip is then
>         marked with a red frame. If I now press the delete button,
>         only this clip will be deleted. A right click on this red
>         marked clip shows me a context menu, which gives me several
>         additional options. It bothers me that every time I have to
>         lock the other video tracks to work undisturbed in one track,
>         when I switch tracks I have to unlock the other tracks again
>         and lock the current one. This feature is good, but not enough
>         to allow fast intuitive working. It would be great if there
>         could be an alignment of this elementary important feature to
>         the other video editing software, because it is quasi standard
>         in the other editing programs.
>         What I noticed is that when I move a video clip in the
>         timeline (in Cinelerra), it automatically creates a colored
>         frame. It would be desirable if this frame were activated with
>         a single left click and thus a context menu would also be
>         available with a right click.
>         I know Cinelerra works a little different than the other video
>         editing software and it's probably a lot of work, but I think
>         the effort would be worth it, because it gives us completely
>         new possibilities and the handling should be known and
>         intuitive and is actually standard.
>         I added a video of Kdenlive to show what I mean by that. The
>         context menu certainly does not have to be as extensive as
>         Kdenlive's, but a simple menu would be helpful.
>         https://streamable.com/u84ng
>         Sam
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