[CinCV TNG] [bug] nested clip

Sam cinelerra at posteo.de
Tue Apr 3 22:36:25 CEST 2018

On 03.04.2018 22:22, Phyllis Smith wrote:
> A little late reply is below.
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 7:23 AM, Sam <cinelerra at posteo.de 
> <mailto:cinelerra at posteo.de>> wrote:
>     1. I have a question. When a nested clip is created, then I see
>     this nested clip in the Media tab too. If I make the clip"
>     UnNest", is the clip in the Media tab still a nested clip? Can I
>     work with these nested clips (Media tab) as well as with the clips
>     from the tab clips? Are there differences?
> Yes, you can work with them.  Cinelerra likes to make copies of EDLs 
> frequently.  The clip in the Media tab is a copy as an asset and 
> therefore still a nested clip. You can still work with the nested 
> clips in Media BUT they may be a little slower because nested edl is 
> rendered, and asset media is decoded.  The render operation does 
> decoding, and then the render stack. This can be compute intensive.
> The big difference between clips and nested assets is that when you 
> paste a clip, the original edl stack is pasted into the timeline.  The 
> plugins and keyframes are still visible and usable.  Once the clip is 
> nested, the paste looks like media, with no keyframes or plugin 
> stack.  The icon in the resource window which is the nested clip is 
> the nested edl asset, and is the object in use when you paste a nested 
> asset.  The clip edl is a vertical slice of the timeline, and is not 
> an asset, but is a set of edits.

Thx. I understand.

>     2. Would it be possible to create the nested clips in the tab
>     Media with thumbnails? Then the behavior remains consistent
>     throughout.
> It slows things down every time cinelerra has to make thumbnails.  If 
> you think it is a gain, I'll look into it
> gg/pys

After a few days of working with it, I think it's even better the way it 
is. It is absolutely sufficient when I see them (with thumbnails) in the 
Clips tab.

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