[CinCV TNG] Debian Stretch APT gives a 404 since Stretch packages added.

Glen MacArthur info at bandshed.net
Tue Sep 5 07:41:01 CEST 2017

Hi Phyllis/GG,

I'm glad to see there is updated info in your README, it wasn't my
intention to sound critical, I just don't want all that great work
getting missed by Debian users who make up a fairly large user-base of
linuxdom.. :).

 I figured the webpage info would be up to Danny so hopefully he sees
this on the ML.

As far as I'm concerned the Jessie 32bit builds can now be retired
since I was the annoying one who sought them in the first place and a
HUGE thanks for continuing with them in Stretch *tips hat. I know
32bit is fading quickly but I'm often surprised how much 32bit traffic
there still is.

Thanks again for all your tireless work, the list of new features is
really impressive, just when we think there can't be much else to fix
you guys knock it out of the park again!

If you or anyone else has any clue why I'm getting the 404 when my apt
line appears correct please let me know.. All other repositories on my
machine are working so it's not as simple as a network problem.

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Mon, 4 Sep 2017 22:07:41 -0600
Re: [CinCV TNG] Debian Stretch APT gives a 404 since Stretch packages

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Glen MacArthur <info at bandshed.net [1]>

(1) Debian Jessie and Stretch both require the "[trusted=yes]" to be
added to the apt line in /etc/apt/sources.list which it currently
isn't by default, I'm puzzled why there haven't been more complaints
but probably 100% of pure Debian Jessie/Stretch users (other than AV
Linux users) who have tried to access the phenomenal work on Cin 5.1
through this page haven't been successful and that is a real shame,
there are some extra instructions covering this for Ubuntu users but
they are on a different page. Not sure if this is GG/Phyllis or Danny
thing to fix but I thought I'd better mention it.

I mostly keep the https://cinelerra-cv.org/five/pkgs/README.pkgs [2]
file updated as GG upgrades all of the many distros and that is where
the original web site page for downloads came from.  But I have to
change the README.pkgs just about every month to cover new situations
and I am not sure that I always get it right and not sure if anyone
wants to change the web page all of the time too.  Unfortunately, I
am not capable of modifying the web page myself.  Features5.pdf (also
out on .../five/pkgs) has basically the same README in section 1.2 and
the "trusted" info was in there.  The web page icons are very, very
convenient for users to download, but .../five... should be looked at
if problems.

I "think" there are a lot of Debian users who are used to having to
work around package install changes, so hopefully they just figure it
out on their own from past experience (kind of just like you did!)


(2) With an updated apt line for Stretch: 

deb [trusted=yes] https://cinelerra-cv.org/five/pkgs/debian [3]
stretch main
# deb-src https://cinelerra-cv.org/five/pkgs/debian [4] stretch main

I get this error on an apt-get update:

E: Failed to fetch
[5]  404  Not Found

Where have things gone wrong here...?

(3) Can I be a total pain in the butt and request i386 Stretch builds
like we had for Jessie?

GG will do the Stretch 32-bit build tomorrow.  Does that mean we can
now drop 32-bit Jessie - at least as far as you are concerned?  We
are trying to keep the number of distro builds to around 15 but also
are trying to keep up to date.  Users can just let us know if they
need a specific version (just like you just did!).  For example, 2
months ago GG dropped Mint 17 to upgrade to Mint 18 and then were
notified that a person was still using it, so we added it back.

Sorry for the inconvenience.  Phyllis/GG


[1] mailto:info at bandshed.net
[2] https://cinelerra-cv.org/five/pkgs/README.pkgs
[3] https://cinelerra-cv.org/five/pkgs/debian
[4] https://cinelerra-cv.org/five/pkgs/debian

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