[CinCV TNG] Blu-ray rendering with Cin-GG 5.1/FFmpeg

Terje J. Hanssen terje at nordland-teknikk.no
Fri Dec 16 18:45:24 CET 2016

I can sum up that I also recently have tested BD rendering on three
different Intel based machines with SUSE Leap 42.2 (now);
from the not longer so fast "Core 2 Duo T9500" laptop, the relative fast
"Quad core Xeon CPU E3-1241" to the fastest "Quad Core i7-6700K"
(Skylake) workstations.

Shortly I follow this simple test procedure with Cin 5.1 :

1. File > Load raw video file(s) from /video
2. File > BD render and use work path  my ~/Cin_Video

The bd_#project folder is created in the ~/Cin_Video folder containing
three files
bd.m2ts  bd.sh  bd.xml
When BD-render finishes the bd.m2ts file 100% (ETA 0:00:00), the
additional udfs file and the EMPTY udfs folder is created and Cinerella
is automatic closed (quitted) immediately. Should it really?

Terje J. H

Den 15. des. 2016 03:39, skrev Phyllis Smith:
> *Terje:* in response to both of your 2 earlier emails, just a quick
> note to
> let you know that I am logging these suggestions to discuss with
> GoodGuy when he is done with Motion Stabilization work that is being
> extremely difficult.  It is going to be quite awhile yet.
> *
> *
>    "On the other hand I have a problem
>     that the final bd content isn't written to the udfs folder."
> This problem you reminded me of in a previous email really bugs me and I
> will see if I can find any other references to it and dig deeper.  As
> you are
> aware he did look into it several months ago and could find nothing
> and we
> could not reproduce it here and since then I have created a lot more
> blu-rays
> in testing and not once had this ugly issue. Something strange is going on
> somewhere in the whole chain of devices/software.
>    " (I think it would be smart if the default was 25i
>      pal or possibly 24p here)."
> Possibly could look at timezone to make 25i default in the same way
> timezone is looked at for DVDs.  No commitment though until look at.
> I guess the 2 above are listed in this newer email, which I have not yet
> digested.  It helps a lot to have them nicely outlined in this latest
> email.
> *Any and all suggestions are always welcome.**  ...   *Phyllis*
> *
> Bugs usually take priority and 3 more turned up today so be patient ...*
> *
> /
> /
> /________________________________________________
> /
> *From:* Terje J. Hanssen <terje at nordland-teknikk.no>
> *To:* cinelerra at lists.cinelerra-cv.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:17 AM
> *Subject:* [CinCV TNG] Blu-ray rendering with Cin-GG 5.1/FFmpeg
> During testing Blu-ray rendering several times with Cin-GG 5.1 (8-bit)
> on Leap 42.2, I came up with some questions and suggestions:
> 1) File > open - Loading video file clips into Cinelerra-GG for BD
> rendering:
> The last used file name loaded is recreated fine, but as the wrong file
> path used afterwards for saving BD rendering also is displayed, that
> file won't load.
> Is it possible to keep and get the previous used file list as "load
> path" instead, to avoid browsing for the right path each time?
> Or possibly set up a user project path for this?
> 2) File > BD rendering - opens the Create BD window.
> a) The preset "Work path" is /tmp
> Is it possible to get the last used "Work path" for saving BD rendered
> file projects here; possibly setup a user project path for this?
> b) The preset "Format" is 1920x1080 at 29.97i <mailto:1920x1080 at 29.97i>
> Is it possible to get the automatic FPS here according to the
> time-region used as used in Cinelerra Set Format, which is
> PAL 25 FPS in my case or 1920x1080 at 25i <mailto:1920x1080 at 25i> here?
> 3) next the Batch Render window opens with File format preset to FFMPEG
> and m2ts
> The Video wrench button here opens the Video Preset window
> with Compression default preset as
> bluray.m2ts (using the Baseline profile)
> other available options here are
> avc422.m2ts (using the High422 profile)
> hevc422p8.m2ts (using ?)
> hevc422p10.m2ts (using ?)
> See the attached screenshot here and also the Feature5.pdf guide page
> 28/103
> As we actually render BD video here, my question is if it would be a
> better choice to replace the current bluray.m2ts Baseline preset with
> avc422.m2ts (using the High422 profile) as defautl preset instead,
> according to
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
> Baseline Profile (BP, 66)
>     Primarily for low-cost applications that require additional data
> loss robustness, this profile is used in some videoconferencing and
> mobile applications.
> High Profile (HiP, 100)
>     The primary profile for broadcast and disc storage applications,
> particularly for high-definition television applications (for example,
> this is the profile adopted by the Blu-ray Disc storage format and the
> DVB HDTV broadcast service).
> 4) BDMV/*/* content missing in the udfs folder
> We have discussed this issue earlier, and I think the missing content
> could be recreated afterwards by running bdwrite manually(?)
> Is it possible to get this issue fixed so that the complete BD structure
> is created as normal during the BD rendering?
> Thanks,
> Terje J. H
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