[CinCV TNG] [CinCV] End of support for Cinelerra Ubuntu PPA

magali m magm001 at hotmail.com
Sun Apr 6 23:47:02 CEST 2014

Hey Nicola,
that's a pity because for me as an eternel newbie of gnu/linux system, but big user of cinelerra, your PPA was THE place where i could find the Cinelerra that i know, were going to work.
I participated 2 years ago with FlossManual organization in the writing of a cinelerra manual and of course we do lead people to your PPA .
I don't know what's the matter with Cinelerra CV and HW, i like this software beyond any wars, but i also know that the world of free software with the ethic of opensource and blablabla, do not impede to disagree in a negative way and make that things can turn bad, at the opposite side of the genuine will of most of the people/users. 
Anyway, just wanted to cheer you up, and i am sure that your PPA did, does help and still can help a lot of people.
Whatever your decision is, i thank you a lot!
my best,

> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2014 17:24:29 -0400
> From: feranick at hotmail.com
> To: cinelerra at lists.cinelerra-cv.org
> CC: cinelerra at skolelinux.no; cinelerra at mail.cinelerra-cv.org; michael.collins at cinevention.org
> Subject: [CinCV TNG] [CinCV] End of support for Cinelerra Ubuntu PPA
> As a casual user (and not a developer) I don't personally have any beef 
> with neither factions (yes, because, unfortunately of factions we are 
> talking about here). However, as a user, I am intimidated by all this, 
> mostly now that is getting personal. I am very uneasy with this.
> For anybody that may care, some history. I barely used Cinelerra, mainly 
> because of my lack of substantial projects for it. I settled with the CV 
> version because - don't laugh - it was the only version I could manage 
> to compile successfully and quickly, without investing a day for it. I 
> strongly believed that in 2010 to have to compile a program from scratch 
> to use it sounded to me prehistoric, anachronistic and a horrible waste 
> of time (for the casual user anyway). Besides for both CV and HW 
> versions, compilation has been terrible for new Linux users. A complain 
> is always easy to throw out, so I set myself to help in what I know how 
> to do. So, just as I do for other scientific software, I created the 
> Cinelerra Ubuntu PPA where people can seamlessly install it in seconds. 
> I hope it served some purpose and helped a few souls. I wanted to 
> created a PPA for HW, but time prevented me to dive in. Besides, I had 
> no needs.
> Now, I have better things in life waiting for me, with much more 
> cohesive and exciting communities to be in. I am not going to pretend 
> that I am relevant or needed (or worst, that I own anything). I simply 
> am not and I don't. So as of today, I will no longer maintain the PPA, I 
> won't even look at bug reports and respond to emails. Current binaries 
> will remain available, but no ports to new releases of Ubuntu will be 
> made. I could transfer to anybody interested the administration rights 
> (including Mr. Collins), but I don't want the PPA to be another 
> battleground for war. So if someone wants to make a new PPA from 
> scratch, please proceed, it's easy enough being open source.
> With that, good luck on your endeavor, being cinelerra-cv, cinelerra 
> hw-non-cv or anything in between.
> Best Wishes to All.
> Nicola Ferralis
> P.S. I'd only ask - you know who you are - not to spam me with requests 
> of linkedin connections. I won't grant any, because I value actual 
> personal relationships more than a high count on my connections. You 
> won't gain much of anything of having me on your linkedin connections as 
> I have no expertize in arts, video editing, Hollywood, etc.
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